Something made me think of this today. A couple years ago a potential candidate asked me something like “Can’t you take a hint?” after a dozen or so attempts to reach him. “When do you stop trying?” he said. My answer was “When this happens.”

I said sometimes it takes a dozen and sometimes it takes 3 dozen and sometimes I actually do move on and try someone else. Generally though, when I do reach someone after multiple attempts (note I didn’t say ‘calls’ anymore 🙂 ) it’s about a 50/50 split between reactions like above and people who are glad we kept trying. Maybe even better than 50/50.

So I have no idea how many times is enough. How could I? I know the circumstances under which I answer my own phone and door and email. Sometimes it depends on the mood or the need for whatever I think they might be offering. Sometimes I don’t answer because I can’t get to it. I have to operate as though I know they want to talk about whatever it is I am calling about but it has to be the right time,place and mode (call,email,txt,meeting,whatever).

It’d be much easier if there were some way to let people know I’ll keep at it. Then the ones who yell ‘Can’t you take a hint?’ might politely say ‘No’ at the beginning and save themselves some time.

Gotta’ go, phone’s ringin’ and I think it is someone I might be in the mood to speak with…


Not many people will ‘get’ this but time is too tight to explain a lot more. The guy who responded to my post sent me an unsolicited resume years ago. I did what I could then which wasn’t much. But when I needed a simple bit of advice years later I got nothing for 6 or 8 emails and calls until I posted in public that the reqs are ‘fake’. One of the people posting the reqs actually told me they were fake. The rest don’t understand what fake means…No hard feelings. Just frustrating. Here’s my posting and what ensued.

NASIC ATEP Candidate

If I read right this is the perfect place to ask if any recruiters have an “in” to a client on this contract. Everything I find says all the reqs we see are fake and there’s no real money applied to them. I know a guy who’d be perfect and would love to be in Dayton. He wants it so much he’ll probably even see this. We have worked for close to a year and had no luck. This guy is worth 2 or 3 fees. PHD,Algorithm Dev. MASINT CIPoly.

Dave,There are 3 ATEP primes Ball, NG and GD, all have the same job ads out they are not fake, its just everyone of the primes and the subs post the same positions because they are all competing.

Wow, there you are… Maybe I sent those other messages to a dead email address? I guess ‘fake’ is a strong term but I got it straight from some of the people posting these things that they are just collecting resumes and the positions are not funded. People can’t get hired. So, independent of my role as a headhunter that qualifies as fake just like when Circuit City advertises a TV $100 cheaper than anywhere else but has none in stock. Maybe that’s why Circuit City is gone… In any event I hope you are doing well.

Do YOU know anyone who can actually staff that? I am so frustrated on my candidate’s behalf I am ready to ‘give him away’. Thanks,Dave..

A good old-fashioned quick-rant. I like Yahoo Groups. It was the first version I saw for what I needed at the time. Now there’s Ning and Google and LinkedIn and many others doing what they do best but also trying to copy Yahoo Groups.

And Yahoo is messing with me too now. I got an invite from someone to share pictures and status updates and all the same crap that’s on FaceBook via Yahoo. Why do we need 10 different versions of FaceBook now? They won! Let it go! Just stick with your main Yahoo stuff.

Just yesterday I saw a new search aggregator that says it’ll search about 10 of those things at once for info on people.

Maybe we all need a ‘personal portal’ that will handle all these requests from all these entities so we can actually get something done.

Now I need to go update my LinkedIn status so it’ll go out on Twitter and FaceBook so people will know I have a new blog entry. If I send it on Plaxo and my Yahoo Profile it’ll also go to people who spoke to me once and could not care less. In fact, what I should really do is just call Tom,Ron and Clyde. Then the only three people who were going to read it anyway can say…he’s at it again…